Friday, February 5, 2010

Remixes.

There is something about remixes that leaves me very dissatisfied.  I think something is lost once you imitate or change the Original.   Here's an example. This used to be a song designed to Promote National Unity in India somewhere in the 80's and 90's. And theres something I cant put my finger that makes me enjoy this.

Here's the rehashed version of it which was shown on the Indian Republic Day, Jan 26th this year.. Although the music is still wonderful, the overall video felt like there's something missing.. Is that my resistence to change or is something really missing in it?  This is a preview. For the complete version which is 16 minutes long go Here =>  Zoom TV, India

22 comments:

tee skor said...

I was taught if some thing is not broke don't try to fix it

Leveret 333 said...

Why is the only word I can come up with is .."Plastic" ?

Mindsnomad Yay said...

*giggling* Jackie, cause it does feel like it.

Mindsnomad Yay said...

I agree with that thought...They could have come up with something more Original than trying to remake the same thing.

jo la ranita said...

i think the first omprint it usually the strongest one...if you like the song you will probably listen to it over and over and it will leave a very strong imprint into your mind...from this moment any new version will sound a fake imitation...i feel the same thing about my good old tunes...

jo la ranita said...

awwwww i love that finger board! this is soooooooooooo cool...

jo la ranita said...

i have no imprint for that tune...must admit i like the second version the most, because of the musicians

Mindsnomad Yay said...

Thats exactly what the younger generation said..born after the 90's the ones who heard the earlier version like that one better. The second version is Pepped with a lot of "Technology" somehow not feeling REAL sound.

jo la ranita said...

one day...i will visit India...it has been on my to do list for a while...

Mindsnomad Yay said...

Its a very Colourful Place...Makes you alive, Forces you to use all your senses all the time. :)

jo la ranita said...

i have been told it is not easy for us to visit such a place where contrasts are everywhere...but...you have to see the taj mahal with your own eyes i suppose...so many different cultures so many different faces of religion...i have been told that visiting India will probably change my life forever...

Mindsnomad Yay said...

It will. Its a bundle of contradictions a perfect example of duality and the concept of impermanence. A Yin Yang. It will change your life especially if you are used to seeing "Clean, clinically disinfected spaces". India is not like the west where it has the same level of Clean Appearance no matter where you go. Ideas of what is "etiquette" is, is very different if you move from one home to another. In cities, there isnt any Homogenity wrt peoples, clothing, language, religion or foods...you will find a cocotion of all and it will force a knowing that we can thrive with the differences, force our acceptance of what is, instead of what it should be like.

Initiative Stain said...

Rashmi, I am not sure what is missing but as a semi musician I love that finger board to say the least. This second video is really very cool. I can relate with it.

tracy marshall said...

Funny Rashmi, I posted elsewhere yesterday about how I love DJ mixed music (although I don't mean just rehashed, I mean mixed using many different music tracks in one) I can't seem to watch videos today though, internet connection very slow

Mindsnomad Yay said...

Jack, I have a few theories on why I feel its not "as good as before" think it has to do with a couple of reasons 1. The digitized sound in music doesnt really sound like the real instrument, it only sounds LIKE the instrument not REALLY the instrument. Its the difference between listening to a church Organ and then listening to the the Keyboard that has the option of sounding like an Organ. There is a difference. 2. The earlier version has People who are actually Trained Classical Singers and the later version has really musicians and Actor's who are not trained in classical singing and some who are lip syncing. And add to the fact that I Love Pandit Bhimsen Joshi's and Srimathi Latha Mangeshkar's voice, I dont think anyone else can beat their quality.

I think its only the generation that has heard and loved the original who feel this way. :).

tracy marshall said...

still too slow to watch videos, but I dont think DJ mixed say Buddha Bar music is what you're talking about here :)

Mindsnomad Yay said...

No, this isnt the Buddha Bar, this used to be a song/video that was promoted by the Ministry for information, India. Let me see if I can find the audio version only instead of the video..:)

jo la ranita said...

one day i'll be ready for this I know...you write so beautifully my friend

Jo B said...

I like both videos. Beautiful scenery. But I know from my own life that nothing is like the original.

Shail Mohan said...

Rashmi, that's the newer version. Can't exactly call it a remix. I really dont know whether I like it or not. I am undecided because our liking or not liking something I feel is something that depends on a lot of other things. So what exactly makes me not like it... is it the fact that I like the former and am stuck in that groove and refuse to accept the newness in the second version?? Of course these are merely hypothetical thoughts because I really don't mind the second one! :)
There was a blog blasting this new version and one of the comments there said that in all probability some twenty or more years hence, a third version of Mile Sur Mera Tumhara would be made and our kids would blast it the same way we are blasting the second version because they would be in love with the second version just as we are still in love with the first. I found that a very sensible comment and somewhat similar to my line of thought. Of course there are some things that transcend time and stays fresh even across generations.... but in most all other cases, it is just our love for it, our being used to it, that gives it that special something and why we don't like to see it changed. That's what I feel :)

On another note, I am not against remixes. In fact I find some of them quite well done while some of them are quite pedestrian. Here again, I don't think these views of mine can be taken as absolute. After all my taste and that of the next person may not be the same. It only means that I do enjoy some remixes. :)

Did I make sense?? :)

Mindsnomad Yay said...

Oh yes Shailji, you make sense... I was trying to understand why I wasnt getting the same kind of high when I heard the same words with a newer version in terms of the kind of instruments used...I dont mind some remixes but most times it falls flat on me. Its the same with Sequels of movies, somehow the second or third parts feels like they were trying to SSSTTTRREETTCCHH the story to places where it doesnt give the same Oomph.

Shail Mohan said...

You are right about movie sequels. I have felt the same about most. The one exception is Stuart Little. I enjoyed the second as much as the first.